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Computer cousin - first alpha of KDE4 already as live-cd. First alpha of KDE4 already as live-cd. KDE developer Stephan Binner has the release of the first alpha version of KDE 4 in his Blog admits given. Completely hasty may be pleased even about a live-cd, which promises safe Impressionen of the new Desktop environment. On the release of a stable version in this autumn one counts. On basis of the next open CSU SE version 10. the KDE Four baptized live-cd comes along. It contains beside a Vorabversion for Octobers expected open CSU SE of Linux system 10,3 the first alpha version of the long desired fourth version of the Desktop environment KDE. The new KDE will bring along a set of profound changes as for example the new Multimedia API. Due to this and other strong interferences into the base of code the development becomes also in such a manner aufwaendig. Almost all programs must be adapted by reason on. Program complexes, which could not inspire an active developer for this work, will be missing accordingly also in the coming version 4 of KDE. To it belong above all older plays and programs, which could go through at best as Gimmick. Essential software packages as for example the noble terminal emulation "console" belonged to the first successfully portierten programs. Beside open CSU SE above all also Kubuntu developers are about emsig to advance the development of KDE 4. Parallel to the trying system "KDE Four Live ones" can be busy users of Kubuntu 7,04 alias "Feisty Fawn" a little with the new Desktop and communicate their experiences the developers. Guidance for the installation the alpha 1 of KDE 4 under Kubuntu gives it on the official sides to the distribution. Many things are not either only insufficient or nor at all implemented. So it may not also surprise that programs fall frequently or malfunction simply the service, then to become starting from first June 2007 no further functions more added. Starting from this date it goes then to the large pure making and Ausmisten, so that then on 25 June the first beta version can be published. Then one further beta version each is to appear, until then in September the first publication candidate (RC1) is released in the monthly rhythm. For at the beginning of October is then still another RC2 planned. And if nothing far should disturb this expiration, then the developers and fan hope, to 23.2007 KDE 4 officially the light of the IT world will then see. It applies also here accordingly that the current level of development is not suitable for the productive employment nVidia: Conversion and profit on high level ICQ network again partly failed. Well that is nevertheless times worth a view. Hopefully come then also soon kdelibs for Windows raus (and/or can be compilen again, which does not go momentarily):). (unfortunately no Czech can) one sees completely different Desktop surface (.) seeing than on the above Screenshots is read that plasma of the successors becomes from SuperKaramba. Plasma is however on functionality (TaskBasket, task border etc. improves.) change laid out its and not like SuperKaramba only the Theme of the KDEs. Because on this Desktop make I happy particularly with KDE4.0 using of plasma to look itself could. Linux becomes slowly which correctly fine:). Linux is already for a long time which fine, if one white which one thereby to employ is. Which has to do optics at all with Linux. Linux is only the Kernel. Linux is already for a long time which fine, if one white which one thereby to employ is vllt should you "is" through "can" replace I have since yesterday also Linux must only still my w-Lan to running bring, Windows custom I however to play. Linux is already for a long time which fine, if one white which one thereby to employ is. well clearly only because of the optics, the optics is stop the entscheidene. Everyone thereby is been versed, white the Linux actually only the Kernel been, but the whole users interest hardly. Naturally also different things must such as driver support, configuration, compatibility, etc.. They must become much better within all ranges, otherwise are transferred more circumstance and agony instead of use. Naturally also different things must such as driver support, configuration, compatibility, etc.. You forgets that that is task of the hardware manufacturers. It is these days absolutely no more problem to place a completely compatible Linux system on the legs. And besides the drivers of my Main board under the Linux Kernel function clearly better as under WindowsXP, only in such a way than note. Thus I have already for years beside a Windows system also Linux (Disb. which one can with linux make which with xp or mac does not go proudly to be nix functioned because none work in vain can somehow is the sense of linux at the goal past gerattert. Linux lives of the Community and also only these carries out the support. You actually already ever worked with Linux. Yours nix suggests:rolleyes which goal functioned there somehow not Linux according to for your opinion set itself. And times besides, Linux is free, as you recognized correctly. I must thus no 120? spends and can nevertheless (nearly) everything make, what Windows or Mac can do also somehow are the sense of linux at the goal past gerattert. somehow are the sense of linux [ color="DarkRed"]an dir[/color ] past gerattert. Into the Debian Repositories over 20.000 system and application programs central are made available. A small overview with ubuntuusers:. But you live only in your small play world. Purchase you to the comparison calmly times a "Microsoft Windows server 2003 Enterprise 64Bit full version". Which can that that does not know a nearly arbitrary Linuxdistri recommends, also times over the edge of plate to look and in time before the occupation entrance me nevertheless somehow admits forwards, this ignorance came:. Oh so, Linux soll's also still give. No, there rather remain I thank with my Windows. I had times Linux with KDE for approximately 9 hours on my old computer. Longer I did not bear it with this muck. The optics originates from the Middle Ages, the structure is generally very unclear and special functions searches one in vain. No miracle, if they carry names like "advice-mark-how/as-I-hot" or "searchmark-beautiful-far". The GUI is only a cheap and also still bad poor copy of Windows 9x. As marvelous is nevertheless against it the world of Windows Vista. The windows poppen gently out or slide into the task border. Navigation and handling are simply, easily, fast and efficient. Everywhere helpful are left and to Tipps. It may be that Windows has so its smaller or larger Macken. HP: The fact that Windows systems are exposed to larger attacks than of this it-its-name-not-geannt-will-may, is nevertheless clear. Which creator of viruses would like to attack the 2 computers of the remaining 5 billion, on which Windows runs. PPS: And no, I am not captivated by Microsoft. I am simply admitting Windows user since Win 3. @sunnyboy and the sensor: if want to play it, too heise goes. For Heise conditions are the extremely poor Troll Postings without own potential or originality. That would go down there regarding the mass simply and here stop for lack of qualified facts. And but here specially announced. Fits again and again - as Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi already said: [ they ignore you. @SunnyboyXP7 color="DarkRed"]"First: I would also not have thought capable of to you in the removing by ms to be captivated. Come again if your horizon over the width of a beer cover extends. But you live only in your small play world. I have a play on the computer, and runs even under Linux. Which does not run against it on Linux is various Adobe of products, as well as Cubase and Logic - and now shows me times alternative. And who comes in such a way now me with Gimp or, simply only ne Linux Schwuchtel. is I uses Gimp also under Windows.Ich seh even in open SOURCE the future. Typically pubertaerer dte rodent, which wants to make itself important. Nearly all different use eh only pirat copies. Besides there is also still to Wine and Cedega under those at least the Adobe of products runs. Look at also times the new Ubuntu studio: (however straight lies more danieder) by the current crush. And under open CSU SE there is also still the JackLab Tonstudio project:. And 64 studio there are also still:. And as said, Photoshop runs under Wine, if one absolutely needs it and the money for it hat.).org/krita/pics/bala_krita1. Then there is still pixel in the development:. And where is the problem, if a special application were not converted yet on Linux. That is debt of Linux or the application manufacturer. That makes the other projects therefore not worse. Stupid pauschalisieren is the only one, which I see with you. Mach rather your nut/mother a joy and is dear today. Oh, and to the actual Topic: Optically one can discover new there however with KDE4 not yet too much. That is still everything under the hood and is probably rather only for developers interesting in the current stage. Thus, only the function, then the beautiful light. The imbecility, which is dovetailed here by the Windows Lobbyisten, is times again intolerable. No desire has to deal with it, but that had I to become times loose @ Topic - natural will times down-load and will test me the CD. It does not have a sense about it to argue whether Linux or Windows is better. For people, those only a fast, beautiful operating system for working, Surfen and evtl. Plays to have, are Win want the better choice, if one is interested however going beyond it in computers and programming etc., are waived probably one better with Linux, which offers more possibilities clearly in this direction. You you nevertheless rather for this sentence would have cared to be received as on everything. Thus develop only unnecessary discussions and the Geflame and Threadshredder are pre-programmed. There the saying can be applied also to Linux. Who is occupied with which will also control it. One must consider oneself, to which one needs the OS. Possibly is not so suitable Linux for sielen, has however different strengths. I consider seriously to begin with Linux. Plays becomes ever less - no more time. And for my parents look for IC eh which, which they cannot broken-play.) Only unfortunately me Linux is simply still too complicated. I hate me Freespire procures. Like Windows and offers also the Look and looks Feel. But Nezwerk or configure in such a way simply in such a way - there already was end. Perhaps it is to be been there rather an error, very experienced Windowsnutzer. I have so a text console with any kryptischen instructions since DOS 6. As marvelous is nevertheless against it the world of Windows Vista. The windows poppen gently out or slide into the task border. Navigation and handling are simply, easily, fast and efficient. Everywhere helpful are left and to Tipps. Aero vs Beryl, schau it you asks times an.uEe5OzNQ&mode=related&search =., but aero aktivierste with in two Klicks, this 3d laptop with Linux is so complicated to be furnished, there wirste as a beginner bekloppt. But, this 3d Cubes looks more geiler and is in my eyes also practically for it needs de also only 2 klicks (Ubuntu) and evtl again your password. To accuse one knows Linux and/or the hardware manufacturers that there are simply still too often problems with the hardware. Thus nevertheless more frequent times driver is missing and/or it not everything is perfectly supported. I looked for several days long for a solution for the problem and did not become unfortunately fuendig. Which one in such a way to really work cannot do understands itself automatically and so must I still with Windows deliver itself - unfortunately. Your problems are drivers of problems at those the manufacturer debt have. Complaints ask to Acer or the map manufacturer of the WLan map. With many Notebooks one can exchange the WLan adapter map at the MiniPCI interface one: Intel PRO 2915ABG 54MBit dual volume WLAN MiniPCI adapter. (also different manufacturers give starting from 15, -?, then however again the problem with the drivers) are in the Kernel contained default of drivers for Intel. Here still chip-corrode for it also Linux driver gives:. :) How it goes with the Icons. even if only were more again more desktopmanager introduced here natruelich again a principle discussion the topic follows seems most still sensitively if you digital took up makes, then with linux. I does not know the programs, which you suggested are meant nice, but that is stop over-strikes no comparison with the programs, which exist for windows, cubase, logic etx. I says that only, because me these common monotheismus in the OS discussion nervt. both is also beautiful kde for different purposes linux is mad somehow from the idellen point of view on was never my case had dear of gnomes or without desktop manager, kde is simple already quite full-plugged. Replace Nedit by Abiword and it helps you already. Who needs in the everyday life actually and really all the functions. Correctly, there are not yet everywhere 100% alternatives, nobody must Linux use, but I think 80-90% the user (excluded hard core players.) ) could do it from their requirement profile. Is nevertheless ridiculous, who absolutely needs everything here Photoshop, in order to work on its mobile phone camera pictures. And with KDE4 the Look and Feel, thus also the Usability will again strongly improve. That brings more user in the Linuxbereich and with it more incentive for the companies also postage run gene on Linux to make. I think, the development become off approx.. 10% market share and intensified enterprise employment strongly accelerate. One compares a little the development with the Firefox. In addition still the interesting comment of a developer on pro Linux: Comment of a reader on pro Linux. RH: The Look is really still Oldschool Einsender: Torsten Rahn (rahn@kde. as you already noticed: KDE 4 is one point in KDE's history of the development, which we try EVERYTHING again too. So far the programmers were mainly busy to model the basic modules again. Even if it cannot be compared to 1:1: With the building of a house that agreed approximately to mean that structural drawings exist now, one on which materials are used and one already the foundation of the house with the cellar finished. Also already some parts of the former auxiliary buildings with the new material "were restored". But the actual house is straight in the structure and during the scaffold and the carcass actually quite "old School" out-looks, is it for outstanding ones idly to be still said like the house at the end to out-look from the outside and like the interior arrangement will once work. Who will state once KDE 4 alpha 1 tried out not to recommend (for normal users absolutely), that most programs do not even function in fundamental aspects let alone. Therefore there were until recently still no KDE 4 under which one at all to develop could. Months work (occupation s) commercial artists at the Oxygen style only outside of the Desktops possible, there it a Desktop which one Designen could have done simply yet did not give has the commercial artists slowly the possibility to enter the "house" over it of thinking, which comes "wallpaper patterns" where and like the appearance in the detail. To that extent it is to be weighted idly over the "Look", because there are not the "Look" as such yet at all in the form (when someone, the diagram Design for KDE 1beta3-3. has, is already times lucky I the fact that the alpha version at all already Icons used and black rectangles as feedback to KDE3 was not frequently that the Look & Feel somewhat too. Therefore the elements work to find those already now in KDE 4 are consciously only once somewhat soberly, timeless. Because it is substantially more easily, a sober, timeless Desktop following on a style with a certain character to trims, as if one takes turned around an existing style and then on somewhat completely different one "bend" is. Also with the first alpha versions of KDE 2, KDE 3, Nautilus, gnomes 2 and the first gel documents versions of Vista have normal users, into the alpha test got lost regularly one. The phenomenon the fact that normal users frighten themselves only once at the sight of the first developer version duly or feels a dislike is completely normally actual Look & Feel will become for the normal user only toward end of the beta phase clearly and even there can it still. We have the large luck with KDE 4 that there is in the meantime many excellent commercial artist, who works on KDE 4 and its Icons. The core team exists among other things of the same commercial artists, also also the David Vignoni, from that. If one looks at oneself, how much on Oxygen one works at present, then the already enormous potential saves:. Clearly: momentary much still is in the experimentation phase. Usability test made and also much becomes designed, which something is through-slammed "or absolutely" practice unfit "". Belonged in a so early stage simply to it and is. Size already simply class out, but it must show up whether the effect of these Icons can unfold also later in practice on the Desktop. Until the whole developed then so far that a Look is "more genuine" there, we must practice simply in patience: -). Then I probably had luck with my hardware simply only. The hardware compatibility is absolutely respectable in my case since Feisty. Since the experience is there and I work somewhat more intensively with the computer (- n must), am it also times interesting, more fastidious goals, like that z. in the treatment of diagrams of reaching with Gimp. Amazingly possesses what abilities this free program nevertheless. Similarly with LMMS, this program induces me to it, simply times differently for work, benefits creativity. there the coffee tastes nevertheless equal much better. And to the topic: nem given Gaul, one should from behaviour, never looks in the muzzle thus I uses both winXp/vista alst also linux (ubuntu - Feisty Fawn) winXP now times the advantage which you absolutely nothing could must and you all "erklicken" can. With Linux kann/(muss) one there stop already somewhat more deeply in the system which already something training and amplifier-change-eat required. - have me 2 days ago times Beryl installed there can one Vista forget. The optics is doubly sogut according to my opinion as of Vista. Exactly, and for such people like us Microsoft has specially still the old Windows-3.1-Icons in the character font manager (including the remaining code garbage) penetrate-lets.) always reminds me of "Fahrenheit 451". 99,9% all Windows Kernel in the world), to search can and. I love my trustworthy Windows. *) Today is not no more programmed, but "designt".NET it is even so fantastisch that that is filled with writing strictly nach.NET text book guidelines developed Paint.NET for DIN A4 a SW Scan in 300 dpi per Scan only 100 MT main memories occupied and after seven Scans of the 1 GB RAM memory @spock37 to you applies the same as for windows fanboys: play please with heise. Yes, it is already interesting, if to such news messages Windowsuser also convinced announces itself to word. Which for requirements in terms of the Linuxumfeld, which is placed distributions. If one point is not fulfilled, automatically everything is bad. I use also partial Windows 2000pro/XPpro/2003server. In the private surrounding field however only rarely - Notebook stop with parallel installation [ color="DarkRed"]KDE4 it will give also for Windows. And KDE already brings an enormous amount at programs with:. If one got accustomed firstonce to it, falls later transferred to Linux more easily. See other large open SOURCE of projects as:. Then PCS can be offered also according to standard as alternative with Linux. It will always give areas of application in the professional surrounding field surely, where also further the Windowseinsatz is worthwhile itself, there puts also simply already too much work in it. And now Microsoft gets correctly Angst:.de/news/software/betriebssysteme/2007/mai/microsoft_opensource_235_patente/ and one must it again and again say: [ color="DarkRed"]Linux Windows.cles/Linux_ist_nicht_Windows is not/. it already noticed that the topic is KDE4 here and not the comparison between Windows and Linux. Interested here none, if it with Linux cannot deal:p thus please back to the actual topic). @22 Sturme: You have a notion, where my horizon lies. At the edge of the universe and the 4. But who does not have arguments, which must attack someone personally. I speak from experience, see the topic however also (so far possible) objective and state arguments. Which must be able to carry an operating system out. 1) user friendliness - an OS must have to be served for everyone. Whether it is a child, a dte rodent, an adult or the dear granny. The OS must be able to be served intuitively and with all complexity remain as simple as possible. And not least it must also ensure that also humans with Handicaps and handicaps can have fun at the computer. According to my opinion no other operating system offers such user friendliness such as Windows. You can set yourself to the PC and loose-put immediately. 2) compatibility - an OS must be almost perfectly to all hard and software compatible. And for past, present and future hard and software. No other OS offers such a broad spectrum at compatibility than Windows. Plug&Play functions with almost any hardware. And if it should not be the case, then that has mostly causes, which one cannot charge to Microsoft. So far I had still no problems, which concerns. And in the case of the conversion to a new operating system it is nevertheless only natural that EVERYTHING does not function immediately perfectly. One did not know that naturally before. 3) optics - an OS must to be optically responding and to be adapted variously be able. Windows offers a perfect overall view also here. Everything is co-ordinated harmoniously one on the other and can to the own needs be configured accordingly variously. Besides there are many Styles, which will develop of the Comunity. - for my taste Mac OS X progressed not in such a way much too monotonously and boringly and long like Vistas aero. Also I find Beryl aero by far underlaid and/or am Beryl much too playful, which is in all other respects constantly accused by Linux Lobbyisten Windows. To which to the devil I need a window coming up in flames. And I feel this aspirating into the task border as disturbing. 4) stability - here Windows may not score always. However one must also note that some users deal rather schluderig with their OS. If I split the brake hose of my vehicle, I do not need to be surprised that I cannot brake no more. Nevertheless Microsoft strives to offer to the customer a more stable OS. - mark completely besides: With the unbelievable complexity of Windows, it is not a miracle that it is more susceptible. 5) security - that is a topic for itself. Windows is by its far spreading naturally attack target number 1 and for this reason never perfectly safe will be probably. In addition, with Vista some did here. Would interest me however, as Linux in puncto security cut off, if millions hackers would attack it. I dare the prognosis that after one week at least 100 Patches would have to be supplied later, in order to close the safety gaps. Only who wants which to find, if nobody (hardly one) looks for it. 6) to good the latter an OS must contain everything, which I need for the everyday life. And with Windows one is in the best way served in this regard. I can hear music, to regard or even which play to burn, it writes, administers DVDs and much more besides. Straight one by this bundle at functionality became Windows/Microsoft, which it is today. Often the objection comes, with Windows is nevertheless much too few programs from the Linux corner and/or which believes it, what happened, if Microsoft includes still more than so far in its OS. There are to complaints and editions of trusts not already now and/or and which would be, if it made Microsoft nevertheless. Thinks simply times about it. Still times a word to Beryl: Everything only geklaut. Always is the question, who abkupfert from whom. Which one must leave however Microsoft, is the fact that they make and perfectly into the system merge it measure suited. About KDE4 and Linux: I will test it with appearance also times in a virtual environment. On the old computer Linux could not be removed any longer. There was also no repair functions or other. Well, probably was miserably provided CD of a Windows lover, which. All in all I must say however again and again: Windows is simply a measure-suited round around package for everyone. And exactly that should also be an OS. Love of greetings and love yourself again. now must one arguments for Windows find, interesting. Windows is simply a measure-suited round around package for everyone. Mean left to Linux_ist_nicht_Windows. Linux remains nevertheless an alternative, not for everyone, but ever more user. And the development of KDE4 will make this alternative only more attractive. And Beryl is still beta. There there are hundreds of functions, which play to to try out and serve. Which everything of it should be copied by the 5 functions of aero. In a productive environment that will quite more dezenter be used all, in addition also everything is completely freely configurable. The most interesting and most productive functions of the Composite manager Beryl/Compiz (are now reunited) will hold also in KDE4 introduction:. Looks at you nevertheless times the videos with YouTube to the KDE Fenstermanger KWIN. That makes already a good impression. Thus these features will then be available without further installation in the Desktop and also the productivity will increase. Here still another left, thereby one better kann:.0-alpha1 imagines that: A Visual Guide ton of new features. On the old computer Linux could not be removed any longer. There was also no repair functions or other. As you would remove a Windowsinstallation. Already times tried to delete or simply again format the Linuxpartition, possibly = and fixboot/fixmbr all necessary information should supply the search words repair console. @limoni arguments are the components of one civilize led discussion. Windows does not have it at all necessarily that one "looks for" for it arguments would have. But it is not only Windows alone. So far I did not learn a Office program to know, which is as good as ms Office 2007. As I about 16 was used I under Win95 still Lotus Smart Suite. The Office functions under Linux I regarded likewise like OpenOffice. But no program could take up it also only approximately with ms Office at functionality and user friendliness. Since the appearance of ms Office 2007 gives it for me personally no more competition product, because ms Office is superior 2007 in each regard. Which ms Office is 2007 in the range Office application, Windows Vista represents with operating systems. It is simply intuitive serving, which clear structures and the clarity, which Microsoft products distinguish. And the straight operating system represents an interface between humans and computer. Therefore it should be so developed that one can serve it practically blindly, without having to know it really deeply. With Windows this is the case, with Linux must one eternally search, until one found something. In addition all the amusing command functions come. That may not be exciting for Programmierfreaks, however in a professional OS anything lost and/or should not it functionality dominate and a "Normalo" into the tube look let. Windows is conceived for everyone, Linux for Programmiercracks. In it the difference probably lies. Everyone the Seine - the Microsoft@all. Which concerns the graphic user surface, then all world always depends on the newest OS von Microsoft. When the new Design appeared from WinXP, adapted as well as all programs to this Look. With Windows Vista holds the 3D-Look introduction and over short or long soon all program surfaces will be Vista-similarly arranged. Microsoft sets stop again and again new yardsticks, which concerns the Design. If one looks at oneself the upper Screenshots of the KDE 4, becomes clear, how far it behind-limps. It is mixes from Mac OS X and WinXP. And Linux is and remains no real OS in the sense by Mac or Win. Like many distributions it gives. Which are now best suitable for me. Many questions, which one wants to ask oneself as users neither nor look for Anworten on it. I want EFFICIENCY and ACHIEVEMENT. All I find with Windows and miss I with Linux. Or call me like you want I be always somewhat other. It prevails evenly no clarity, which deters each standard user. I am occupied somewhat more intensively with computer, but this chaotic chaos under Linux stinks to the sky. Probably there only Psychopathen look through. Last end must however everyone even for itself decide, what pleases it best or with which he clear-comes better. With a Rolls-Royce or with a crate from wood, even tinkered. Thus the fight between Windows and Linux will probably never find an end I answers now times only to divides, with kde to do had the remainder is here simple offtopic. (however I had already times written you: play. "one looks at the upper Screenshots of the KDE 4, becomes clear, as far it behind-limps and again completely slowly for you: that is an alpha. there at the Design was not yet nothing at all done and/or it so far only aggravates, in that old code was removed for the final user has this alpha no meaning that is versions for developers and people, by the technology to amuse itself wants for all different: in the autumn it could which become. Which you want to actually reach with your Windowswerbeveranstaltung here in the Linux forum. You already noticed that the topic is KDE4 here and not the comparison between Windows and Linux. Interested here none, if it with Linux cannot deal:p thus please back to the actual topic.) Fact is, Linux becomes steadily better within all ranges. KDE4 will contribute its portion to the improved Usability. You should lead principle discussions in other place, as already several times marked. A 3D Desktop is already developed for years by Sun: Looking Glass:.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass thus again no new invention of ms. I am occupied somewhat more intensively with computer, but this chaotic chaos under Linux stinks to the sky. Probably look there only [ color="DarkRed"]Psychopathen[/color ] through. But one should give to think you: Hundredthousands or millions users get along also with Linux. Why straight you do not create that. Naja, many Windowsuser are overtaxed with too much selection directly. Know they nevertheless only "OK ONE"/"breaking off" or ""/"no" however really only are the world black or know. And [ color="DarkRed"]Psychopathen[/color ] you can save. Amusingly also your gebashe against AMD in your signature recommends to look and the Lemmingen not only afterwards-run times over the edge of plate. Apparent I am to be served smartly enough Linux without problems to find but to stupid the perspective from that here some regarding. Besides one may not ignore the factor "free". From therefore it one should not go with Linux so strictly into the court, the part functioned nevertheless completely excellently. Well, the thing with the Gaul and the Lemmingen stop why so aggressively and unobjectively. You all did not learn, how one leads a dispute. I recommend the writings of Aristoteles, Sokrates and Platon here. But that would be a principle discussion for itself. , then you admit Aha thus that Linux is complicated. An OS should be as simply as possible held. And if I need to only enter to ", a" breaking off "OK ONE", "" or "no", then this is nevertheless ideal and a goal of a program. Or you drive from Berlin also only to Hamburg over Paris, in order to come to Munich. Much better it is to be curved nevertheless space-time and be come in such a way on direct way to Munich - without time delay. But Linuxianer cannot see so far obviously. It is evenly difficult, if one fristet in a dark cave its existence - see Platons Hoehlengleichnis. I am strained, which will then have changed. At the current time I cannot find reference points, which let it appear attractive. It is evenly nevertheless only one poor copy of an older Windows version. But that is my feeling, which andre do not have to divide. I only look evenly nevertheless far beyond the edge of plate, which some apparent cannot do. An OS soll(te) for everyone made its. And that is Linux at the present time definitely not. I hardly believe that a riper woman or an older gentleman with Linux would clear-come. There the chances stand with Windows already much better, because it is simply more universally and less specifically technical. Lunix is and remains simply too confusing. To me someone can explain times logically, like it is developed and which this whole SUSE, open CSU SE, Ubuntu, Kubunto etc.. There however a voice sounded and said: "I am the Mr., your God. You are not different operating systems to have beside me. You are not hand creation at the Kernel of your system, on that it to you better-go. You are not to deceive marriage breaking and Windows. You are not to steal - however to copy goes into order. You are not to talk wrongly certification against your next one. You are not to desire your next PC or everything that its is. Now, one then probably calls Blasphemie, which. In addition, us Windows trailers is nothing at all holy. -) Oh, now take nevertheless all this not so seriously. Everyone has so his preferences and favorites. But it is evenly in this regard already like that as with the religions. Only I never understood these conflicts. If you, limoni, clear-come with Linux and it as well as view of the things correspond to your function best, then is it nevertheless well like that. With me it is even Windows. Thus, why therefore the heads hit themselves. Many more badly would be it nevertheless, if everything were uniform and colorless. - you can mailen me however gladly and naeherbringen to me Linux. So openly and tolerantly evenly we are Windows user. And as steht's with you. And apologetic it asks that I kicked loose so an avalanche. It seems to be still a very sensitive topic. As said, I am strained on the final version of KDE 4 and it will then test also intensively. Up to then you all all property. "and that is Linux at the present time definitely not. I hardly believe that a riper woman or an older gentleman with Linux would clear-come to it can I only say: you err "Lunix are and remain simply too confusing. Someone can explain to me times logically, how it is developed "can you explain, as windows is developed just as few, as I could explain the last function mode to you in linux. here stolperst you however over your argumentation, one must it with both be able to do which kde and does not look as windows concerns: one can leave it in addition, one can also the use in such a way stop as with windows. then is lost however a majority to its, which makes kde clearly more comfortable in the use than windows. however it is for everyone released, how he wants it to use which the thing with complicated concerns: here the habituation effect is the main difference that is only endlessly complicated probably everything and at the completely wrong places much too complex in the use. I always do not understand one. Linux offers alternatives for people, which cannot to use or want the operating systems of ms for the most different reasons. Who does not have these reasons, which should remain nevertheless with Windows. I doubt, which is it the trouble value to want to bring you Linux more near. A certain interest to in-permit itself on new should already clearly recognizably sein.org/wiki/Geschichte_von_Linux. There one [ color="Red"]KDE4[/color ] can by the way also find Screenshots, but as said, there there is optically not yet much interesting to see. If you mean, KDE is a poor copy of Windows, then schau you with KDE Look over:. Schau it you on, if the variety does not make excessive demands of you. Take nevertheless times Live CD and try it out simply, also pain, z does not do. Those make also fun and are as far as possible completely vorkonfiguriert:cool. Linux offers alternatives for people, which cannot to use or want the operating systems of ms for the most different reasons. Who does not have these reasons, that should nevertheless remain with Windows why purges you into this argumentation pattern linux is always alike actually none worth against ms, but worth for itself however people: we would know this discussion vllt at other one place continue. With Windows it is simple and clear. Obviously it pleases Linuxianer however to buy and then even build the individual parts up of an automobile. That is however nothing for the broad mass, for which Windows is meant. I do not have myself last night by the way the thing with the "Linux am Windows" read. The argumentation krankt at all corners and edges. Linux is therefore a clear step to the rear, in the Middle Ages, bakes tons of basic. As the PC became so successful. It was not the famous old air. Were also not yet so much the DOS systems. Only by the revolution of the graphic user surface including mouse the PC became, which it is today. An OS serves as interface between humans and machine. It should make the functions understandable for humans and not be so abstract any longer. It is to become understandable and have to be understood. Linux goes however again into the other direction, back to the command line, back to DOS could one say. With Linux the software stands in the center, so the statement of the addressed contribution. But exactly that is the error. Software is to be programmed not over their sake, software should be made FOR humans. And bedeudet: as simply as possible, efficiently, to understand easily user friendly its. Windows is an OS FOR humans - Linux is a system for itself. Windows is accessible open and to everyone, Linux is not measure suited egoman and. It does not pursue simply the goals and/or the task of a modern OS: Interface to be between humans and machine. At the actual purpose by-develops thus perfectly. The Screenshots I already regarded. Why the variety should make excessive demands of me. Also for Windows there are thousands of Themes. It concerns rather what I had evenly addressed. I read in the report also, Linux was not replacement for Windows, but an alternative. But it is not even that. Linux would be an alternative, if it would offer that at least, which knows Windows, or even still more. This is not however the case. Evenly for the reason, because it is "software on its own". Windows is "software for US all". That is the reason, why it represents neither a replacement still another alternative. Linux is simply a toy for hobby amateur handicraftsmen and notorious programmers. It is however no OS in the actual sense. Everyone makes, what it wants, it sticks somewhere with Linux on and voilà. We have a chaos without structures and clarity. Perhaps the original goals and beginnings were not bad. But which from it became, each logic and user friendliness miss. We take the GUI from the series "star Trek" as example nevertheless times. That would be a genuine alternative, if it were already feasible today and also really as efficiently and simply were to be served as in the series represented. Regard to you nevertheless times please this video. It shows the future of Windows. Again an argument for Windows and against Linux. Again an indication that Windows would like to connect humans, Linux however not. Obviously it pleases Linuxianer however to buy the individual parts of an automobile. Who buys its Linux among the private users. That is however nothing for the broad mass, for which Windows is meant. There are Distributoren:rolleyes.(inhaltlich not in vain: GUI with windows and mouse operation makes successful an OS). Linux goes however again into the other direction, back to the command line. Linux goes let exist not back to the command line, but a powerful Tool in the system. With Linux the software stands in the center, so the statement of the addressed contribution. But exactly that is the error. Software is to be programmed not over their sake, software should be made FOR humans. And bedeudet: as simply as possible, efficiently, to understand easily user friendly its. Windows is an OS FOR humans - Linux is a system for itself. Windows is accessible open and to everyone, Linux is not measure suited egoman and. It does not pursue simply the goals and/or the task of a modern OS: Interface to be between humans and machine. At the actual purpose by-develops thus perfectly. Those are the statements of people, which can read vll, but do not understand, what in the text it is not stand efficient always equivalent user friendly and eingaengig.Windows and openly, there the chickens laugh (and penguins). I find the error messages of Windows very meaningful, but I must say. STOP: 0x09qe0900090f gives me nevertheless very details refers to where I the error to search must. I read in the report also, Linux was not replacement for Windows, but an alternative. But it is not even that. Linux would be an alternative, if it would offer that at least, which knows Windows, or even still more. This is not however the case. Evenly for the reason, because it is "software on its own". Windows is "software for US all" then sponsorst you me shortly your licenses for the next 3 Windowsversionen. You are right and keep yourself away please from the Linux part of the forum. Because a Windows twaddle in love (sorry) one can do such not all to long bearing. You know only your beautiful "heal" Windowswelt (if at all) and want "us up" over Linux to clear - supi. A beautiful day still. The development of the last months in the Linuxbereich passed quite you somehow. I help to philosophieren dear people, which have concrete problems, as here around. If you have further discussion need, you should open and this further in addition not abuse its own Thread. To it one referred already several times. I fear, here am otherwise equivalent close. Otherwise, take to you Live CD and gain first times own experiences. Left were further above already sufficiently called. If you have at the beginning of problems, there is assistance in many places. If it tries out simply, then we can talk further. And why the 5jaehrige Sohn of a friend can serve and to count learn a PC on Edubuntu and GCompris. on the mouse, although it do not write yet at all learned. Still its parents must take over the registration at the system with password, afterwards it comes completely alone clearly. The short one is completely enthusiastically proud from the system and to demonstrate it its friends those all together to the Playstation herumdaddeln. These teaching programs are explicitly for children developed, there to legend still times one, it around humans would not go. Thus there, depending upon requirement and foreknowledge, are evenly different stages of the entrance. Beside different Desktopmanagern, not only KDE, also different distributions for different requirement/operational areas. At the end a Gentoo for Ambitionierte or also a SLED(Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop stands) for enterprises for example. With children one cannot talk stop reasonably. I can not only read, but also seize contents of texts. I can argue and on professional level. You did not understand simply the sense of my words. Then I can drive equal to the Hottentotten and "maintain" me with those. Those are my language like their it are just as little powerful to understand the basic idea of my argumentation. I maintained, I Linux in the smallest detail to never know, was never stated, I would be computer expert. But I am educated humans with sufficiently understanding, in order to regard complex things and to draw from it logical conclusions. Instead of just as worth-free arguing are you endeavored to represent me as stupid. Now, shows once more of you mental level. And so deeply I will not sink certainly. Become lucky with "your" Linux - otherwise: All power at Windows. You want to hear only that, what fits into your picture. , a case would say of excessive self over-estimation, if one hears you talk in such a way. @SunnyboyXP7: After many Posts which can be read extremely amusingly I was encouraged in my opinion only then in insulting ignorant wiping the same away end. @sunnyxp few want I hire nevertheless still to write: "with Windows it is simple and clear. "Linux goes however again into the other direction, back to the command line, back to DOS could one say it to have that away taken and was exactly with it successfully the PC than DOS machine large became. ms had used years, until out windows something became, which one can zumuten humans others to have it actually correctly made, reminded was here to apple and Amiga both could not themselves intersperse however here only at the edge. it does not have anything with topic to do the remainder commentates I times does not seem me to be also quite senseless. Log you in first, in order to commentate the news. First information to new power packs of Seasonic Auras VGA radiator: The Arctic Cooling killer. 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